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		<title>By: Cyberquill</title>
		<link>http://blog.cyberquill.com/on-writing-kingly-snakes-and-wheels/comment-page-1/#comment-535</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyberquill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking forward to your post, but does the &lt;em&gt;exclusively&lt;/em&gt; really have to be there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking forward to your post, but does the <em>exclusively</em> really have to be there?</p>
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		<title>By: Cyberquill</title>
		<link>http://blog.cyberquill.com/on-writing-kingly-snakes-and-wheels/comment-page-1/#comment-534</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyberquill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Artists are renegades by nature, so I don&#039;t see much danger of the arts homogenizing anytime soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artists are renegades by nature, so I don&#8217;t see much danger of the arts homogenizing anytime soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyberquill</title>
		<link>http://blog.cyberquill.com/on-writing-kingly-snakes-and-wheels/comment-page-1/#comment-533</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyberquill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In all fairness to the Mainer, the &quot;rule&quot; about going easy on the be-word family is all mine. Pursuant to it, let me rephrase: Yours truly, not the Mainer, established the &quot;rule&quot; about going easy on the be-word family. King only inveighed against the passive voice. 

One person does not get to determine a winner. Proper adjudication of a motion requires two teams of three and a jury with keypads in their armrests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all fairness to the Mainer, the &#8220;rule&#8221; about going easy on the be-word family is all mine. Pursuant to it, let me rephrase: Yours truly, not the Mainer, established the &#8220;rule&#8221; about going easy on the be-word family. King only inveighed against the passive voice. </p>
<p>One person does not get to determine a winner. Proper adjudication of a motion requires two teams of three and a jury with keypads in their armrests.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Stazyk</title>
		<link>http://blog.cyberquill.com/on-writing-kingly-snakes-and-wheels/comment-page-1/#comment-531</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Stazyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s good to see that you have The Stand within easy reach--it&#039;s one of my favourites.

But, regarding the larger point.  What I do not have within easy reach is one of the several rejection letters I&#039;ve received from agents/publishers telling me to read books like Mr. King&#039;s in order to make my writing publishable.

There, I&#039;ve said it.  I&#039;m embittered by rejection!  

But I still think that this kind of thinking is homogenizing the arts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s good to see that you have The Stand within easy reach&#8211;it&#8217;s one of my favourites.</p>
<p>But, regarding the larger point.  What I do not have within easy reach is one of the several rejection letters I&#8217;ve received from agents/publishers telling me to read books like Mr. King&#8217;s in order to make my writing publishable.</p>
<p>There, I&#8217;ve said it.  I&#8217;m embittered by rejection!  </p>
<p>But I still think that this kind of thinking is homogenizing the arts.</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas</title>
		<link>http://blog.cyberquill.com/on-writing-kingly-snakes-and-wheels/comment-page-1/#comment-530</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After all this, I am now considering -- as I do from time to time -- to write a post about why one must only use short, Anglo-Saxon words and never Norman-Latinate words, and to write it exclusively in Norman-Latinate vocabulary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After all this, I am now considering &#8212; as I do from time to time &#8212; to write a post about why one must only use short, Anglo-Saxon words and never Norman-Latinate words, and to write it exclusively in Norman-Latinate vocabulary.</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas</title>
		<link>http://blog.cyberquill.com/on-writing-kingly-snakes-and-wheels/comment-page-1/#comment-529</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, but now you have just given a perfect argument for IGNORING King&#039;s rules.

The original sentence, from gut to quill, read:

&quot;It is sort of cute, but also rather worthless, as there are too many tags on too small a space, and I don’t know how to make the stupid thing bigger.&quot;

Your revised and &quot;improved&quot; sentence read:

&quot;I like its dynamic nature, but too many tags on too small a space render the gadget functionally useless, and I can’t figure out how to make it bigger.&quot;

(You then &quot;improved&quot; this further to:

&quot;I like its dynamic nature, but too many tags on too small a space render the gadget useless, and I can’t figure out how to make it bigger.&quot;)

Your original sentence wins hands down!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, but now you have just given a perfect argument for IGNORING King&#8217;s rules.</p>
<p>The original sentence, from gut to quill, read:</p>
<p>&#8220;It is sort of cute, but also rather worthless, as there are too many tags on too small a space, and I don’t know how to make the stupid thing bigger.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your revised and &#8220;improved&#8221; sentence read:</p>
<p>&#8220;I like its dynamic nature, but too many tags on too small a space render the gadget functionally useless, and I can’t figure out how to make it bigger.&#8221;</p>
<p>(You then &#8220;improved&#8221; this further to:</p>
<p>&#8220;I like its dynamic nature, but too many tags on too small a space render the gadget useless, and I can’t figure out how to make it bigger.&#8221;)</p>
<p>Your original sentence wins hands down!!</p>
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		<title>By: Cyberquill</title>
		<link>http://blog.cyberquill.com/on-writing-kingly-snakes-and-wheels/comment-page-1/#comment-528</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyberquill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a bit of a cartoonish syllogism you&#039;ve whipped up there. No one except a lobotomized chipmunk would seriously adopt such logic, especially not upon consulting Stephen King&#039;s adverb-infested exhortation to forgo their use. Clearly, the chillmaster did not advocate writing completely adverblessly but merely to cut back on adverbs as muchly as possibly.    

I just opened a random page of &lt;em&gt;The Stand&lt;/em&gt;, which happened to be within reach on my little desk here, and on this page (p. 743) I read the following:  

&lt;em&gt;In the extremity of his joy, Leo&#039;s carefully won-back vocabulary had deserted him, ...&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;He could only hoot loudly and enthusiastically.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;...and he saw that he was applauding as frantically as the rest.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;... a family of barnswallows that had taken up residence in this fine and private place after the plague struck now flew about crazily, ...&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;... and Stu muttered, &quot;Goddam thing,&quot; which was clearly picked up and broadcast.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;He cleared his throat, feedback whined briefly, and he took a wary step back from the mike.&lt;/em&gt; 

The page is small-print, roughly 400 words, and I found seven adverbs. Assuming I missed a few, let&#039;s say the page contains 12 adverbs. Would be interesting to perform a scientific adverb count in Stephen King&#039;s ouvre to see how many he uses compared to other authors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a bit of a cartoonish syllogism you&#8217;ve whipped up there. No one except a lobotomized chipmunk would seriously adopt such logic, especially not upon consulting Stephen King&#8217;s adverb-infested exhortation to forgo their use. Clearly, the chillmaster did not advocate writing completely adverblessly but merely to cut back on adverbs as muchly as possibly.    </p>
<p>I just opened a random page of <em>The Stand</em>, which happened to be within reach on my little desk here, and on this page (p. 743) I read the following:  </p>
<p><em>In the extremity of his joy, Leo&#8217;s carefully won-back vocabulary had deserted him, &#8230;</em></p>
<p><em>He could only hoot loudly and enthusiastically.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8230;and he saw that he was applauding as frantically as the rest.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8230; a family of barnswallows that had taken up residence in this fine and private place after the plague struck now flew about crazily, &#8230;</em></p>
<p><em>&#8230; and Stu muttered, &#8220;Goddam thing,&#8221; which was clearly picked up and broadcast.</em></p>
<p><em>He cleared his throat, feedback whined briefly, and he took a wary step back from the mike.</em> </p>
<p>The page is small-print, roughly 400 words, and I found seven adverbs. Assuming I missed a few, let&#8217;s say the page contains 12 adverbs. Would be interesting to perform a scientific adverb count in Stephen King&#8217;s ouvre to see how many he uses compared to other authors.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Stazyk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Stazyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 09:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, you made no such claim.  And as far as I know, neither did Mr. King.  What I&#039;m reacting to is the logic that says:  (1) King is a  brazillionaire because he&#039;s sold a lot of books, (2) King doesn&#039;t like adverbs, (3) ergo, people should only write books with no adverbs if they want to sell books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, you made no such claim.  And as far as I know, neither did Mr. King.  What I&#8217;m reacting to is the logic that says:  (1) King is a  brazillionaire because he&#8217;s sold a lot of books, (2) King doesn&#8217;t like adverbs, (3) ergo, people should only write books with no adverbs if they want to sell books.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyberquill</title>
		<link>http://blog.cyberquill.com/on-writing-kingly-snakes-and-wheels/comment-page-1/#comment-526</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyberquill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 09:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see anything wrong with listening to people who are successful in their fields, and Mr. King didn&#039;t say anything about &quot;the only way to do it.&quot; He merely--firmly and clearly--stated his personal preferences. Besides, no one suggested that any particular person&#039;s advice is &quot;all we should get.&quot; You appear to be reacting to claims that no one made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see anything wrong with listening to people who are successful in their fields, and Mr. King didn&#8217;t say anything about &#8220;the only way to do it.&#8221; He merely&#8211;firmly and clearly&#8211;stated his personal preferences. Besides, no one suggested that any particular person&#8217;s advice is &#8220;all we should get.&#8221; You appear to be reacting to claims that no one made.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Stazyk</title>
		<link>http://blog.cyberquill.com/on-writing-kingly-snakes-and-wheels/comment-page-1/#comment-524</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Stazyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 08:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mind if people like Stephen King write books about writing.  What I do mind is when people actually listen to what they say.  It&#039;s like Johnny Rotten telling people how to sing and having people think that&#039;s the only way to do it.  I have to confess to liking both King&#039;s books (which may or may not be different from his writing) and Rotten&#039;s music, but I don&#039;t think that they are all we should get.  It&#039;s sort of like the way American Idol has engineered everything out of modern singing except people (male and female) who shriek like Whitney Houston being electrocuted.

So I say, imploringly, make laughingly, lovingly, playfully, nauseatingly, poetically, atrociously, slyly, amusingly, perniciously joyful use of adverbs.  Really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind if people like Stephen King write books about writing.  What I do mind is when people actually listen to what they say.  It&#8217;s like Johnny Rotten telling people how to sing and having people think that&#8217;s the only way to do it.  I have to confess to liking both King&#8217;s books (which may or may not be different from his writing) and Rotten&#8217;s music, but I don&#8217;t think that they are all we should get.  It&#8217;s sort of like the way American Idol has engineered everything out of modern singing except people (male and female) who shriek like Whitney Houston being electrocuted.</p>
<p>So I say, imploringly, make laughingly, lovingly, playfully, nauseatingly, poetically, atrociously, slyly, amusingly, perniciously joyful use of adverbs.  Really.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyberquill</title>
		<link>http://blog.cyberquill.com/on-writing-kingly-snakes-and-wheels/comment-page-1/#comment-523</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyberquill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 06:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop wandering, or I&#039;ll send you back into your closet. If you want to be a writer, you must learn to stay focused. 

My biggest pet peeve is (AAARGH!!!) the word &quot;be&quot; in all its bromidic incarnations, particularly the pesky &quot;It is...&quot; at the beginning of a sentence or clause. Please don&#039;t remind me how many times I used it in this post. Talking about committing suicide. Having used &quot;is&quot; and &quot;was&quot; multiple times and not being able to come up with snappy replacements ranks among my personal top causes for suicidal ideation. 

Yes, I believe the rotating tag cloud plugin is available on WP.org only. It is sort of cute, but also rather worthless, as there are too many tags on too small a space, and I don&#039;t know how to make the stupid thing bigger. 

OK. Let&#039;s try the previous sentence &lt;em&gt;without&lt;/em&gt; the wearisome &quot;it is&quot; and &quot;there are&quot;:

I like its dynamic nature, but too many tags on too small a space render the gadget functionally useless, and I can&#039;t figure out how to make it bigger. 

I suppose we can kill the &quot;functionally,&quot; as the word &lt;em&gt;useless&lt;/em&gt; sufficiently implies a lack of functionality. Actually, not &lt;em&gt;sufficiently&lt;/em&gt; implies, but simply implies. Now let&#039;s cut the &quot;actually&quot; and the &quot;simply&quot;: Not &lt;em&gt;sufficiently&lt;/em&gt; implies, but implies.

Much better--I&#039;m learning, Mr. King!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop wandering, or I&#8217;ll send you back into your closet. If you want to be a writer, you must learn to stay focused. </p>
<p>My biggest pet peeve is (AAARGH!!!) the word &#8220;be&#8221; in all its bromidic incarnations, particularly the pesky &#8220;It is&#8230;&#8221; at the beginning of a sentence or clause. Please don&#8217;t remind me how many times I used it in this post. Talking about committing suicide. Having used &#8220;is&#8221; and &#8220;was&#8221; multiple times and not being able to come up with snappy replacements ranks among my personal top causes for suicidal ideation. </p>
<p>Yes, I believe the rotating tag cloud plugin is available on WP.org only. It is sort of cute, but also rather worthless, as there are too many tags on too small a space, and I don&#8217;t know how to make the stupid thing bigger. </p>
<p>OK. Let&#8217;s try the previous sentence <em>without</em> the wearisome &#8220;it is&#8221; and &#8220;there are&#8221;:</p>
<p>I like its dynamic nature, but too many tags on too small a space render the gadget functionally useless, and I can&#8217;t figure out how to make it bigger. </p>
<p>I suppose we can kill the &#8220;functionally,&#8221; as the word <em>useless</em> sufficiently implies a lack of functionality. Actually, not <em>sufficiently</em> implies, but simply implies. Now let&#8217;s cut the &#8220;actually&#8221; and the &#8220;simply&#8221;: Not <em>sufficiently</em> implies, but implies.</p>
<p>Much better&#8211;I&#8217;m learning, Mr. King!</p>
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		<title>By: Cyberquill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cyberquill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 05:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m from the esteemed Tom Cruise school of psychology. If we shot the world&#039;s supply of anti-depressants to the moon, I have a hunch that overall rates of clinical depression and suicide would actually &lt;em&gt;decline.&lt;/em&gt; Too many people are taking too many pills. 

And yes, I&#039;m a compulsive self-editor. The good news is that after a few dozen nips and tucks and rewrites applied over several weeks, I often reach a point where I actually &lt;em&gt;like&lt;/em&gt; the way a paragraph flows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m from the esteemed Tom Cruise school of psychology. If we shot the world&#8217;s supply of anti-depressants to the moon, I have a hunch that overall rates of clinical depression and suicide would actually <em>decline.</em> Too many people are taking too many pills. </p>
<p>And yes, I&#8217;m a compulsive self-editor. The good news is that after a few dozen nips and tucks and rewrites applied over several weeks, I often reach a point where I actually <em>like</em> the way a paragraph flows.</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas</title>
		<link>http://blog.cyberquill.com/on-writing-kingly-snakes-and-wheels/comment-page-1/#comment-520</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 05:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great post. Very witty.

You&#039;re poking fun at somebody for something in such a way that your love for the thing becomes even clearer.

As it happens, I was not even aware of King&#039;s essay, but I&#039;ve also gone through a phase when I avoided ALL passive tenses and ALL adverbs. I stopped when I realized that I had overdone it, and that my writing was bad.

I had a few other phases. At one point, I refused to start an article with a small fill word such as &quot;a&quot; or &quot;the&quot; or &quot;in&quot;. I looked for verbs (action!) in the gerund instead. That too soon got rather silly and stupid. 

BTW, whew, what a great spinning tag cloud over on the right. 

Is that only available on Wordpress.org? 

That said, my eyes keep wandering over there, and away from your post....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great post. Very witty.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re poking fun at somebody for something in such a way that your love for the thing becomes even clearer.</p>
<p>As it happens, I was not even aware of King&#8217;s essay, but I&#8217;ve also gone through a phase when I avoided ALL passive tenses and ALL adverbs. I stopped when I realized that I had overdone it, and that my writing was bad.</p>
<p>I had a few other phases. At one point, I refused to start an article with a small fill word such as &#8220;a&#8221; or &#8220;the&#8221; or &#8220;in&#8221;. I looked for verbs (action!) in the gerund instead. That too soon got rather silly and stupid. </p>
<p>BTW, whew, what a great spinning tag cloud over on the right. </p>
<p>Is that only available on WordPress.org? </p>
<p>That said, my eyes keep wandering over there, and away from your post&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: dafna</title>
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		<dc:creator>dafna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 04:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pardon. i thought the tone satirical. with due respect to s. king, i  was  judgmental since  i don&#039;t read his work. on the other hand, i can say with good judgment that i detest the writings of j.k.rowling

are you self-editing? my email alerts are different than your posts.

to take your own life is an extension of mental illness, since we are hardwired to survive at all cost. suicide FOLLOWS extreme, overwhelming pain. period. yes the meds are often far worse than the disease.

not all people in pain commit suicide, it&#039;s dependent on a persons &quot;threshold&quot; for pain. it&#039;s a desperate act by desperate people who have given up any hope of a life free of pain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pardon. i thought the tone satirical. with due respect to s. king, i  was  judgmental since  i don&#8217;t read his work. on the other hand, i can say with good judgment that i detest the writings of j.k.rowling</p>
<p>are you self-editing? my email alerts are different than your posts.</p>
<p>to take your own life is an extension of mental illness, since we are hardwired to survive at all cost. suicide FOLLOWS extreme, overwhelming pain. period. yes the meds are often far worse than the disease.</p>
<p>not all people in pain commit suicide, it&#8217;s dependent on a persons &#8220;threshold&#8221; for pain. it&#8217;s a desperate act by desperate people who have given up any hope of a life free of pain.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyberquill</title>
		<link>http://blog.cyberquill.com/on-writing-kingly-snakes-and-wheels/comment-page-1/#comment-518</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyberquill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I didn&#039;t know Foster Wallace, neither in person nor via his writings, until I read about his suicide. Someone mentioned his disquisition (another good word!) on language, and I checked it out. Haven&#039;t read anything else by him. I&#039;m sure it&#039;s all very good. (Anytime a depressed/bipolar person commits self-slaughter--in spite of the Everlasting having fixed His cannons against it--I wonder if it was the condition itself or the cumulative effect of all those meds that ultimately did them in.)

And I didn&#039;t &quot;shred&quot; Stephen King&#039;s advice. The guy is a phenomenal writer, and his book abounds with valuable suggestions. I merely picked on a minor incongruity. After all, the hapless author had just been hit by a motor vehicle. The process of learning to walk again often distracts from keeping tabs on one&#039;s adverbs. Besides, no writer follows their own advice to a T. 

Not much has changed since Biblical times. One still needs a snake to reproduce. Sort of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I didn&#8217;t know Foster Wallace, neither in person nor via his writings, until I read about his suicide. Someone mentioned his disquisition (another good word!) on language, and I checked it out. Haven&#8217;t read anything else by him. I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s all very good. (Anytime a depressed/bipolar person commits self-slaughter&#8211;in spite of the Everlasting having fixed His cannons against it&#8211;I wonder if it was the condition itself or the cumulative effect of all those meds that ultimately did them in.)</p>
<p>And I didn&#8217;t &#8220;shred&#8221; Stephen King&#8217;s advice. The guy is a phenomenal writer, and his book abounds with valuable suggestions. I merely picked on a minor incongruity. After all, the hapless author had just been hit by a motor vehicle. The process of learning to walk again often distracts from keeping tabs on one&#8217;s adverbs. Besides, no writer follows their own advice to a T. </p>
<p>Not much has changed since Biblical times. One still needs a snake to reproduce. Sort of.</p>
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